tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post3136010034254972901..comments2023-12-21T23:44:40.324+13:00Comments on Maui Street: The Maori seats: surveying the fieldMorgan Godferyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-47807725020084504752013-04-22T16:08:14.234+12:002013-04-22T16:08:14.234+12:00I think the problem with the greens is that they&#...I think the problem with the greens is that they're predominantly perceived as a middle class Pākehā party which is really reflected in their caucus (apart from Metiria) and much of their membership. It's ironic given their strong focus on kaupapa issues but if they want to do well in the Māori electorates, they're really going to have to promote strong Māori candidates up their list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-86366703327158853652013-04-08T17:15:19.589+12:002013-04-08T17:15:19.589+12:00Are the media reports correct? Is Pita getting ri...Are the media reports correct? Is Pita getting rid of Te Ururoa? Man, is the party imploding that much?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-58891633863646947312013-04-07T16:19:13.030+12:002013-04-07T16:19:13.030+12:00Just for interest - Green performance for the Part...Just for interest - Green performance for the Party Vote in the Maori electorates in 2011 was as follows:<br /><br />Te Tai Tonga 15.8<br />Te Tai Hauāuru 11.2<br />Tāmaki Makaurau 9.7<br />Ikaroa-Rāwhiti 9.4<br />Hauraki-Waikato 9.1<br />Waiariki 8.8<br />Te Tai Tokerau 8.6<br /><br />The three lowest voting electorates in the country for the Greens were: <br /><br />Manurewa 3.9<br />Māngere 3.8<br />Manukau East 3.4<br /><br />The Greens definitely need a better Maori and Pacific strategy they are performing terribly in solidly left seats. <br /><br />I'd argue that they should stay away from challenging for electorate seats in a highly crowded field in the Maori Seats and instead push the party vote message heavily. They should also get their leadership out on the streets campaigning heavily in South Auckland next year - 3-4% in South Auckland is an embarrassment given their policy platforms...Richard29noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-77239336007904241152013-04-04T23:33:17.093+13:002013-04-04T23:33:17.093+13:00Morgan,
I think perhaps we as Maori sometimes pl...Morgan, <br /><br />I think perhaps we as Maori sometimes place too much emphasis on charismatic, strong leadership. It's easy to understand why. For so long what we value has been vulnerable to tyranny from the majority. <br /><br />I do hope that someday soon we'll see our values expressed practically in political terms, in a way that doesn't scare the bejesus out of non-Maori NZ (or most of us too btw) - and keep the best of our leadership style (when it's together, it's REALLY together). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-16444846777304165762013-04-04T22:00:16.355+13:002013-04-04T22:00:16.355+13:00Agreed, Maori political movements form around char...Agreed, Maori political movements form around charismatic leaders and important issues. We can't explain Maori political allegiances through, say, cold policy analysis only. <br /><br />Meteria is awesome, but I don't think she is seen to embody the concepts of rangatiratanga (not yet anyway). As per anon above, another explanation is that kaupapa Maori issues are subsumed and can be perceived as subordinate to another agenda. The same can be said of Labour, but Maori have a historical (and still strong) relationship. A number of Maori have too much respect for history to discard that relationship lightly. <br /> Morgan Godferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-17039840539220110142013-04-04T20:53:39.593+13:002013-04-04T20:53:39.593+13:00Hugh,
Just my opinion but I think one key reason ...Hugh,<br /><br />Just my opinion but I think one key reason for the lack of Maori voter support for the Greens is its leadership. Maori voters seem to have a preference for leaders who display qualities of strength and charisma. I'm not saying the Green leaders don't possess those qualities but it's of a different nature.<br /><br />Green philosophy puts sustainable development and the environment at the heart of its political movement. Maori politics places that philosophy alongside issues centred around the expression of tino rangatiratanga. The difference may appear subtle but it is significant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-91633201102453954952013-04-04T18:30:28.257+13:002013-04-04T18:30:28.257+13:00The lack of Maori support for the Green Party is a...The lack of Maori support for the Green Party is an interesting phenomenon. The Greens have one of the most pro-Maori policy platforms of any political party and unquestionably the most pro-Maori platforms of any party that doesn't explicitly frame itself as a party for Maori. And yet their Maori support is almost totally neglible. Why is this?Hughhttp://www.tvgohome.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-56879018197672343712013-04-04T09:41:35.481+13:002013-04-04T09:41:35.481+13:00Hi Manu,
I should correct myself from the messag...Hi Manu, <br /><br />I should correct myself from the message I left above yours. I forgot the Treaty is ranked 4th in the GP's list of long-term goals, and the Charter recognises it and the tangata whenua status of iwi Maori. <br /><br />Not bad for the only party in Parliament that isn't a fractured offshoot of Labour or National. Truly independent.<br /><br />There'll probably be a lot of young first-time voters signing up on the Maori Roll this year. It might be tempting for the GP to consider contesting for the Maori seats to win that rangatahi vote. <br /><br />I hope they don't. The strategy of prioritising party votes over electorate votes works. Why split meagre campaign resources to contest what are geographically-huge seats unless you can virtually guarantee a win? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-37010321406453524112013-04-03T09:28:05.062+13:002013-04-03T09:28:05.062+13:00Don't do it Tamati Kruger! The journey to Parl...Don't do it Tamati Kruger! The journey to Parliament is a one-way ticket to Hell!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-42363524865011525222013-04-03T08:41:24.152+13:002013-04-03T08:41:24.152+13:00I dont know who i would vote for out of Annette Sy...I dont know who i would vote for out of Annette Sykes and Willie Jackson I like them both.Joehttp://aotearoagovt.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-3985497407560035832013-04-02T21:44:56.184+13:002013-04-02T21:44:56.184+13:00In what way do you see Labour being committed to &...In what way do you see Labour being committed to "kaupapa Māori politics" - perhaps the Greens not being seen to be committed in the same way Labour are is a good thing?! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-29321293460195965252013-04-02T21:42:39.564+13:002013-04-02T21:42:39.564+13:00Watch this space - it's certainly actively dis...Watch this space - it's certainly actively discussed in GP policy debates but also a bit chicken and egg: a large chuck of the Māori Green members left after the Māori Party was established and rather than going back after the Māori Party went with National they moved on to Mana, and fair enough. So without a critical mass of Māori within the Green Party it will take some time to work out how a predominantly Pākehā party should model a Treaty-based relationship both within the Party and with other political parties that have a commitment to protecting the rights and responsibilities of Tangata Whenua and Tangata Tīriti.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-74395679393105230812013-04-02T14:22:10.089+13:002013-04-02T14:22:10.089+13:00This makes more sense. I'd like to see her thr...This makes more sense. I'd like to see her throw her hat in.Morgan Godferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-36678598945504629102013-04-02T13:44:06.812+13:002013-04-02T13:44:06.812+13:00You've heard wrong morgan. Moana has been tout...You've heard wrong morgan. Moana has been touted as a possible mana candidate 4 auckland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-31280264114302157812013-04-02T11:40:10.827+13:002013-04-02T11:40:10.827+13:00...and one other quick comment. I don't think ......and one other quick comment. I don't think the Greens will ever make kaupapa Maori politics a priority. It fits within their environment-focus (or at least they try to make it fit), not the other way around. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-21426060396774367992013-04-02T11:37:34.503+13:002013-04-02T11:37:34.503+13:00Hi Morgan, you're right about the momentum bei...Hi Morgan, you're right about the momentum being with Labour, and it being a default setting. Maori Roll voters have always wanted Labour and independent Maori parties to work together (all the polling asking that question since 2004 have stated that. The Maori Party has always denied and rejected that.) It's a shame they couldn't see past their differences. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com