tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post5426731932859761922..comments2023-12-21T23:44:40.324+13:00Comments on Maui Street: Sexism and MaoriMorgan Godferyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-10162996337689716302011-12-08T11:33:16.324+13:002011-12-08T11:33:16.324+13:00Nice call on Wairiki Godfrey. It is no co-incidenc...Nice call on Wairiki Godfrey. It is no co-incidence that idealism tends to fade with experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-22183751541641946282011-10-18T15:10:42.077+13:002011-10-18T15:10:42.077+13:00I say 99% with my tongue in my cheek. Having grown...I say 99% with my tongue in my cheek. Having grown up in in neighbouring Ngati Awa (and being Tuhoe myself) I have a fair understanding of the Tuhoe psyche and what feeling is like on the ground. I say Tame would win based on my knowledge of his standing in Tuhoe and knowing how Tuhoe percieve their politicians and politics.Morgan Godferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-9260976022371675302011-10-18T14:38:04.418+13:002011-10-18T14:38:04.418+13:00Hmmm really.
http://www.tuhoe.iwi.nz/profiles-2/...Hmmm really. <br /><br />http://www.tuhoe.iwi.nz/profiles-2/board-profiles/<br /><br />http://www.ngaituhoe.iwi.nz/About/YourTrustees.aspx<br /><br />Actually, I don't see Tame's name on any of the Tuhoe representative bodies I can find, that includes in recent years. <br />And it is not for his want of trying to achieve influence in iwi affairs, including treaty negotiations.<br /><br />Perhaps not an ideal link, but more informed than you unsupportable youthful idealism that says he would enjoy almost 100 per cent support.<br /><br />Annette has similarly struggled to achieve appointment on similar Te Arawa boards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-82336998777996658342011-10-18T14:12:36.911+13:002011-10-18T14:12:36.911+13:00If Tame stood in Tuhoe he'd win 99.9% of the v...If Tame stood in Tuhoe he'd win 99.9% of the vote.Morgan Godferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-85015639512546221942011-10-18T14:10:13.276+13:002011-10-18T14:10:13.276+13:00It will not be Ms Sykes gender that sees her fail ...It will not be Ms Sykes gender that sees her fail miserably in polling within Waiariki, it will be her history of antagonism and factionalisation in iwi settlements, her outrageous outspokenness, and yes, even Maori get hoha with the radicals who don't ever seem to fade away. I guess an example would be Tame Iti standing say if Tuhoe had its own electorate. How do you reckon he would fare?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-54315908600525777442011-10-15T10:08:23.831+13:002011-10-15T10:08:23.831+13:00Kaa thinks everyone should be like Ngati Porou. Bu...Kaa thinks everyone should be like Ngati Porou. But we can't all be kupapa and have the privilege of a constant flock of arrogant male Ngati Porou politicians. Irony? I wonder whether he's read Anne Salmond's book on Eruera Stirling where Kepa Ehau aknowledges the importance of his own matrilineal descent and succession.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-10345435031246976692011-10-14T18:09:02.094+13:002011-10-14T18:09:02.094+13:00Morgan, perhaps a reason behind the leaders that A...Morgan, perhaps a reason behind the leaders that Anonymous has mentioned have contributed so much to Maori as a whole is because they felt their own people were not listening to them before they gained reputation within Maoridom.Ross Calverleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13810489752054963588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-75722225160766855642011-10-12T19:27:37.793+13:002011-10-12T19:27:37.793+13:00Tena koe,
Thanks for sharing your insightful thou...Tena koe,<br /><br />Thanks for sharing your insightful thoughts. I find your perspective very interesting. Perhaps I've approached this topic with the wrong perspective.<br /><br />Nga mihinui<br />MorganMorgan Godferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-24791510747838933092011-10-09T00:08:48.971+13:002011-10-09T00:08:48.971+13:00If it's not your intention to offend Morgan th...If it's not your intention to offend Morgan then don't. Preceding statements as such, are usually an indication that what one intends to say is going to be offensive. <br /><br />Reclaiming "our original ideas about the role of women and their place in our world" whatever those ideas may be, is hardly a purposeful pursuit for Maori women, especially in today's context. In addition, and with respect, Dr Hone Kaa's question is hardly a valid question in today's context. <br /><br />Te Arawa women are accorded their place in their own traditions. If Te Arawa women are uncomfortable with those traditions in today's context, only they can instigate change. <br /><br />Personally, I have issue with the term chauvinist, which doesn't 'fit' with tradition in te ao Maori and an unfair term to use in evaluating the place or role of women in Te Arawa, or any Iwi for that matter. <br /><br />It would be more purposeful to recognise not so much the role of women in te ao Maori, but the rights of women, Maori and non-Maori, in te ao whanui. A role is exactly that, a role which has certain responsibilities. Who says that Te Arawa women are uncomfortable with their role in their own traditions. Take a look at the inspirational women leaders from Te Arawa and their contribution to te ao Maori and te ao whanui - late Atareta Maxwell, late Taini Morrison, Annette Sykes, and many others. I attended and enjoyed an evening that celebrated Te Arawa women. Phenomenal. Those women have achieved not because of any role they have in their own traditions, but because they exercise their 'rights' to be recognized as strong Maori women and leaders. <br /><br />The ability to do this in te ao whanui, but remain steadfast in their own traditional beliefs is their choice. The right of choice is their's. <br /><br />Incidentally, I'm not Te Arawa, I'm a Tainui woman. Te Arawa have a history of very strong women leaders. We do too, e.g. Te Puea, Te Atairangikaahu, and others...and guess what, you won't see many of us getting up to speak on the marae. Course you would know this, being from Ngati Hikairo, and Waipapa Marae. <br /><br />Not a challenge Morgan...just sharing my thoughts. Your blog was described to me by a colleague as that, which offers critical perspectives from a young talent. He wasn't wrong...<br /><br />Nei ka mihi...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-12119700434473231892011-10-07T04:57:17.189+13:002011-10-07T04:57:17.189+13:00The article is interesting to be argued. I also th...The article is interesting to be argued. I also think that Maori women are accorded their place in Te Arawa.<br />Thank you for sharing your thoughts.Maori Aperirahttp://www.themaori.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-68391541367404533952011-10-07T04:54:04.802+13:002011-10-07T04:54:04.802+13:00The article is interesting to be argued. I also th...The article is interesting to be argued. I also think that Maori women are accorded their place in Te Arawa.<br />Thanks for sharing your thoughts.Maori Aperirahttp://www.themaori.com/noreply@blogger.com