tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post5690883108485750719..comments2023-12-21T23:44:40.324+13:00Comments on Maui Street: The battle for the Maori seatsMorgan Godferyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-8253634158737689912011-04-27T12:35:50.923+12:002011-04-27T12:35:50.923+12:00I totally concur Morgan re your last paragraph.
...I totally concur Morgan re your last paragraph. <br /><br />"Hone's biggest problem is that he is easily led and he is not surrounded by people with contrasting views or people who are willing to tell him when he is acting up or going in the wrong direction."<br /><br />A good leader is one prepared to traverse the hard routes others fear to take. So what is fear in this particular context? The routes others fear to take will be those routes that may see some discomfort to its passengers, fear of not knowing the destination, fear of what we dont know. These you might say are normal human thoughts but when contrasted against the status quo outcome for traversing routes and pathways we have always done which delivers more of the same begs the question "why not?" Why not try a different route. For Hone why not look to pioneer a constitution to replace the Treaty? The future of our country demands that the Treaty have the spotlight on it. For crying out loud the country certainly does not need another Maori party pushing separatist policy and agenda's. The radical improvement of Maori health, employment and wellbeing is going to require a radical change in how Maori choose to walk forward and embrace the future. You are right in that Hone does not need to be surrounded by people that hang onto every vestige of a people debased and take solace in pontificating their views. No Hone needs to be surrounded by people who share his vision his outcome but have different pathways to get there. The challenge for him in choosing his people is ....is he prepared to be unpopular to his core base to achieve his (and actually theirs too) outcomes and therefor select people who can challenge him.Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05205089019704718947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-30294604015718005652011-04-27T08:07:37.355+12:002011-04-27T08:07:37.355+12:00True, the Maori Party will not be destroyed immedi...True, the Maori Party will not be destroyed immediately, rather it will suffer a slow death. One of the problems the Maori Party is facing is succession. There is no obvious successor, Te Ururoa is compromised and may not return to Parliament, Tariana and Pita will not live forever, Rahui is gone burgers and I cannot see any new MP's ready to step in. The party doesn't even have a youth wing which is weird. There is no one coming through the party and there are very few people, I imagine, who are willing to come in from the outside. <br /><br />If the Maori Party do lose MP's, and I think they certainly will, they will lose Te Tai Tonga to Labour and Waiariki to the Mana Party. Tamaki Makaurau will probably go Labour's way. However, I believe if a third candidate does not stand then Pita will retain that seat. <br /><br />Re Hone in government. I accept the view that he is a wee bit uncontrollable. But he is not a child and I think he realises that many Maori expect him to pull his head in. Over the past few months he has acted like a statesman, not a big mouth racist. He is delivering careful soundbites, retracting from some of the harsher rhetoric and generally conducting himself well. <br /><br />Hone's biggest problem is that he is easily led and he is not surrounded by people with contrasting views or people who are willing to tell him when he is acting up or going in the wrong direction.Morgan Godferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-34630921203513265152011-04-26T23:43:39.574+12:002011-04-26T23:43:39.574+12:00"The Mana Party will undoubtedly fill the voi..."The Mana Party will undoubtedly fill the void and a centre left government would be almost guaranteed."<br /><br />Doubt that - because the Maori Party wont be destroyed. If it loses MPs it wont be to the Mana Party it`ll be to Labour. In order for Hone to be in Govt, he'd probably have to be a minister. Can you imagine that - he'd piss everybody off and get fired like Winston.Swimminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12913329810121951824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-10082929287765702942011-04-26T21:08:39.235+12:002011-04-26T21:08:39.235+12:00I AM glad that you admit to not having any knowled...I AM glad that you admit to not having any knowledge about most things -- <br /><br />it shows there are two-three separate voices in your writings -<br /><br />it also shows when you are writing -<br />the contrast is black and white <br /><br />whakahihi - it has gone to your silly head<br /><br />polly abraham - aotea harbourAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-8884174647568915872011-04-26T21:07:31.265+12:002011-04-26T21:07:31.265+12:00and therein lies the issue for Maori...being lead ...and therein lies the issue for Maori...being lead by the consensus. An amalgam of people the majority of which struggle to see beyond their next pay chq or S14 game. My half caste kids demand someone who could careless what the that particular populous needs and focus on more aspirational goals that will see us playing in the game not spectating from the stands. A leader that places as much importance on my kids pakeha heritage as much as their Maori not a leader that only chooses to recognise their Maori line. One that is not afraid to dream and sell that dream then try and mobilise their community to follow them.Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05205089019704718947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-82657086024027647792011-04-26T20:51:30.600+12:002011-04-26T20:51:30.600+12:00Hone can't play as a team member. He acts bet...Hone can't play as a team member. He acts better as a loose cannon. I can't see him working hand in hand with any other party. It is highly possible that he won't win back his seat if the Maori Party stands against him. If that happens then I think Kelvin Davis will win.Lilznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-11054317579334897512011-04-26T09:39:00.542+12:002011-04-26T09:39:00.542+12:00Yes, I am sure. Hone will not condemn him and his ...Yes, I am sure. Hone will not condemn him and his party to the crossbenches. Hone is prone to gratuitous statements. His attack on Goff was nothing more than an insult - he was not stating a bottom line. <br /><br />Politics is not solely concerned with law making. Politics is as much about symbolism, or more accurately perception, as it is about the hard stuff like legislating. In my opinion, Parliament is the ultimate medium for symbolism.Morgan Godferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-85658339872086427662011-04-26T09:32:14.076+12:002011-04-26T09:32:14.076+12:00"he Mana Party will undoubtedly fill the void..."he Mana Party will undoubtedly fill the void and a centre left government would be almost guaranteed."<br /><br />Are you sure? Given Hone Harawira's stated belief that Phil Goff should be shot it's hard to see him reaching an agreement with Labour.<br /><br />Similarly to Rob I'm not sure that Parliament is the best place for a symbolic leader of all Maori to situate themselves. Parliament is not really a good place for symbolism - it's where laws, not gestures, are made.DPF:TLDRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06372937855256319716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-91137449071825839622011-04-26T09:08:19.498+12:002011-04-26T09:08:19.498+12:00I largely agree. It doesn't necessarily mean t...I largely agree. It doesn't necessarily mean they need to breach the 5% mark. A year or two ago I would have said Pita Sharples had the potential to represent all Maori. I'm glad I didn't make that call publicly - he clearly doesn't have what it takes.Morgan Godferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-25683984081521238972011-04-26T08:21:47.268+12:002011-04-26T08:21:47.268+12:00I can think of a few prominent Maori outside Parli...I can think of a few prominent Maori outside Parliament who could represent all Maori well. The issue is they will never be in a position where they are able to. This person would need to put the interests of Iwi closest to them in their electorate behind those of Maori overall. The person would need to be conciliatory and prepared to favour no group over another. I don't think Maori would be prepared to have such a person as their electorate MP because they would not represent them specifically. Such a person would need to be the party leader of a Maori party without winning an electorate seat which I see as being difficult. It probably also means they need to get 5% of the vote.Rob Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05863461526329636842noreply@blogger.com