tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post8299249796539289094..comments2023-12-21T23:44:40.324+13:00Comments on Maui Street: On the two political debatesMorgan Godferyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-6745114585460023192011-11-18T01:51:45.766+13:002011-11-18T01:51:45.766+13:00Yes, they clashed on the whole Auckland issue and ...Yes, they clashed on the whole Auckland issue and on a few other areas, but the fact that they both support and participate in the same government is a pretty huge one that determines the framework of their relationship. Compare that to the relationship the Maori Party has with, I dunno, NZF, and you'll see what I mean about the Maori Party and ACT being close. Not especially close, not as close as either party is to National, but still closer than any other two random minor parties (with the possible exception of Mana and the Greens, who seem on their way to a pretty cozy relationship, but it's nascent at the moment)DPF:TLDRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06372937855256319716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-74341723834215076482011-11-17T22:38:27.888+13:002011-11-17T22:38:27.888+13:00None the less, Morgan (first time poster by the wa...None the less, Morgan (first time poster by the way, I think your blog is one of the best around :) ) Hone was completely justified in playing up the ACT/Maori relationship. The Maori party are supporting, and are part of, a government that includes the ACT party. They know this, and, by staying in that government, effectively condone it. The Maori party are trying to portray themselves as -only- supporting National on things that benefit Maori, but that is not the case. They have voted with the government on important legislation such as the GST increase, and have said in parliament that they -have- to vote with the government to maintain their place. Hone is entirely justified in pointing out that the government they 'have' to vote with includes the ACT party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-71417555353685755492011-11-17T17:12:04.252+13:002011-11-17T17:12:04.252+13:00I don't class the Maori Party as "in coal...I don't class the Maori Party as "in coalition" with Act. At least not in the 2002 sense of the word coalition. You correctly identify the innovation in coalition, and I'm still a little uncomfortable using that word here, mechanics with the advent of confidence and supply agreements. I'm not so sure though, Hugh, that the Maori Party have a closer working relationship with Act than any other Party. The two parties showed an inability to work constructively over the Auckland Maori seats issue and, I would imagine, that Peter Dunne as Revenue Minister has more to do with Act than the Maori Party.Morgan Godferyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151402259122819244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8687643215117543088.post-29041466634203067192011-11-17T16:41:19.289+13:002011-11-17T16:41:19.289+13:00"Tariana certainly didn’t express a preferenc..."Tariana certainly didn’t express a preference for any party pointing out that the Maori Party can and will work with anyone – except Act."<br /><br />It's debatable whether or not the Maori Party and ACT are in coalition - it ultimately depends on what you mean by "coalition", by most country's standards I would argue they are, but New Zealand saw a lot of innovation in coalition mechanics in 2005 and 2008 so it's up in the air.<br /><br />But even if ACT and the Maori Party aren't in coalition, the Maori Party does have a closer relationship with ACT than it does with any other party except National.DPF:TLDRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06372937855256319716noreply@blogger.com